Discussion:
Bill of materials
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Egan
2010-05-22 23:18:01 UTC
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Hi. I need an Access (or maybe Excel) template to help me create bills of
materials. A worksheet with a list of items (record) with the fields "Part
number", "description" and "cost". I then need to be able create a BOM by
entering the "part number" and have the "description" and "cost" as well as
"selling price" (cost + profit %) calculated.

Thanks in advance. Chris.
Steve
2010-05-22 23:41:16 UTC
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Hello Chris,

If you want, I can create a BOM database for you. I provide help with Access
applications for a very reasonable fee. My fee to help you would be nominal.
Contact me if you would like my help.

Steve
Post by Egan
Hi. I need an Access (or maybe Excel) template to help me create bills of
materials. A worksheet with a list of items (record) with the fields "Part
number", "description" and "cost". I then need to be able create a BOM by
entering the "part number" and have the "description" and "cost" as well as
"selling price" (cost + profit %) calculated.
Thanks in advance. Chris.
Larry Linson
2010-05-23 00:05:04 UTC
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Steve, where are you going to spam unsuspecting users once these newsgroups
are closed on 6/1/2010? I wouldn't recommend CDMA because quite a few
people knowledgeable about you are "coming home" to CDMA and they'll be "on
you" like the proverbial "duck on a June bug" -- not even a semi-moderator
to advice them to "take it easy".
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Co-author: "Microsoft Access Small Business Solutions", published by Wiley
Access newsgroup support is alive and well in USENET
comp.databases.ms-access
Post by Steve
Hello Chris,
If you want, I can create a BOM database for you. I provide help with
Access applications for a very reasonable fee. My fee to help you would be
nominal. Contact me if you would like my help.
Steve
Post by Egan
Hi. I need an Access (or maybe Excel) template to help me create bills of
materials. A worksheet with a list of items (record) with the fields "Part
number", "description" and "cost". I then need to be able create a BOM by
entering the "part number" and have the "description" and "cost" as well as
"selling price" (cost + profit %) calculated.
Thanks in advance. Chris.
John... Visio MVP
2010-05-23 02:09:07 UTC
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Post by Steve
Hello Chris,
If you want, I can create a BOM database for you. I provide help with
Access applications for a very reasonable fee. My fee to help you would be
nominal. Contact me if you would like my help.
Steve
Sleasy move stevie. Waiting until Saturday night before you attempt to pimp
your questionable services.




Stevie is our own personal pet troll who is the only one who does not
understand the concept of FREE peer to peer support!
He offers questionable results at unreasonable prices.

These newsgroups are provided by Microsoft for FREE peer to peer support.
There are many highly qualified individuals who gladly help for free. Stevie
is not one of them, but he is the only one who just does not get the idea of
"FREE" support. He offers questionable results at unreasonable prices. If he
was any good, the "thousands" of people he claims to have helped would be
flooding him with work, but there appears to be a continuous drought and he
needs to constantly grovel for work.

Please do not feed the trolls.

John... Visio MVP
Larry Linson
2010-05-23 00:13:07 UTC
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That may not be too difficult a database application to create if your
requirements are as simple as they can be... but if you need to define and
refer to assemblies within assemblies it is not so simple. I was acquainted
with some mainframe software for Bill of Material Processing, and it could
be quite complex.

I recommend you do NOT make use of anyone who panders their for-fee services
in a newsgroup (this one, for instance) which is intended for free support.
In particular, Mr. Steve "my fees are very reasonable" Santus has, on rare
occasions, posted actual answers to questions here (not "hire me" messages)
and there have been so many errors in his answers that experienced users
have commented here that no fee is sufficiently reasonable for solutions
that do not work.
--
Larry Linson, Microsoft Office Access MVP
Co-author: "Microsoft Access Small Business Solutions", published by Wiley
Access newsgroup support is alive and well in USENET
comp.databases.ms-access
Post by Egan
Hi. I need an Access (or maybe Excel) template to help me create bills of
materials. A worksheet with a list of items (record) with the fields "Part
number", "description" and "cost". I then need to be able create a BOM by
entering the "part number" and have the "description" and "cost" as well as
"selling price" (cost + profit %) calculated.
Thanks in advance. Chris.
Egan
2010-05-23 08:56:01 UTC
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Thanks for the warnings guys. My requirements really are that simple. If
no-one can suggest a template, how about some pointers? Access or Excell? I'm
reasonably comfortable with basic formulas in Excell and I did some messing
about with Access a few years ago. I'm familliar with one-to-many
relationships and normalisation etc. I just don't have the time do devote to
learning it all again from scratch.
Post by Larry Linson
That may not be too difficult a database application to create if your
requirements are as simple as they can be... but if you need to define and
refer to assemblies within assemblies it is not so simple. I was acquainted
with some mainframe software for Bill of Material Processing, and it could
be quite complex.
I recommend you do NOT make use of anyone who panders their for-fee services
in a newsgroup (this one, for instance) which is intended for free support.
In particular, Mr. Steve "my fees are very reasonable" Santus has, on rare
occasions, posted actual answers to questions here (not "hire me" messages)
and there have been so many errors in his answers that experienced users
have commented here that no fee is sufficiently reasonable for solutions
that do not work.
--
Larry Linson, Microsoft Office Access MVP
Co-author: "Microsoft Access Small Business Solutions", published by Wiley
Access newsgroup support is alive and well in USENET
comp.databases.ms-access
Post by Egan
Hi. I need an Access (or maybe Excel) template to help me create bills of
materials. A worksheet with a list of items (record) with the fields "Part
number", "description" and "cost". I then need to be able create a BOM by
entering the "part number" and have the "description" and "cost" as well as
"selling price" (cost + profit %) calculated.
Thanks in advance. Chris.
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KenSheridan via AccessMonster.com
2010-05-23 16:22:28 UTC
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Take a look at the demo at:

http://community.netscape.com/n/pfx/forum.aspx?tsn=1&nav=messages&webtag=ws-msdevapps&tid=23133


It's the file attached to the second post in the thread and you'll need to
convert it up to Access 2007 if that's what you are using. It is a true BoM
solution in that it handles assemblies and sub-assemblies of an arbitrary
number of levels. It's not intended to be a fully working template, however,
only a demonstration of how the recursive querying necessary to produce a
bill of materials can be simulated in Access.

I suspect that it might not be what you are looking for, however, as what
you've described sounds a lot simpler than a true BoM, and could be much more
simply achieved with tables Parts, Worksheets and WorksheetDetails, the last
modelling a many-to-many relationship between the first two. Post back for
further assistance if necessary when you've taken a look at the demo.

Ken Sheridan
Stafford, England
Post by Egan
Thanks for the warnings guys. My requirements really are that simple. If
no-one can suggest a template, how about some pointers? Access or Excell? I'm
reasonably comfortable with basic formulas in Excell and I did some messing
about with Access a few years ago. I'm familliar with one-to-many
relationships and normalisation etc. I just don't have the time do devote to
learning it all again from scratch.
Post by Larry Linson
That may not be too difficult a database application to create if your
requirements are as simple as they can be... but if you need to define and
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Egan
2010-05-24 04:20:01 UTC
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Thank you for the link Ken.

You're right, what I need is very simple with no requirement for the
sub-assemblies as in your example.
Post by KenSheridan via AccessMonster.com
http://community.netscape.com/n/pfx/forum.aspx?tsn=1&nav=messages&webtag=ws-msdevapps&tid=23133
It's the file attached to the second post in the thread and you'll need to
convert it up to Access 2007 if that's what you are using. It is a true BoM
solution in that it handles assemblies and sub-assemblies of an arbitrary
number of levels. It's not intended to be a fully working template, however,
only a demonstration of how the recursive querying necessary to produce a
bill of materials can be simulated in Access.
I suspect that it might not be what you are looking for, however, as what
you've described sounds a lot simpler than a true BoM, and could be much more
simply achieved with tables Parts, Worksheets and WorksheetDetails, the last
modelling a many-to-many relationship between the first two. Post back for
further assistance if necessary when you've taken a look at the demo.
Ken Sheridan
Stafford, England
Post by Egan
Thanks for the warnings guys. My requirements really are that simple. If
no-one can suggest a template, how about some pointers? Access or Excell? I'm
reasonably comfortable with basic formulas in Excell and I did some messing
about with Access a few years ago. I'm familliar with one-to-many
relationships and normalisation etc. I just don't have the time do devote to
learning it all again from scratch.
Post by Larry Linson
That may not be too difficult a database application to create if your
requirements are as simple as they can be... but if you need to define and
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Egan
2010-05-25 07:55:01 UTC
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I've now made my three tables;
Part, with fields; / Part Number / Description / Cost
Kit, with field / Kit/
and to link them;
PartKit with fields /Kit / Part Number/
and i've got the one-many relationships between the tables.

I can make the form to input the new parts, but I'm stuck with how to make a
form to create a new kit
Post by KenSheridan via AccessMonster.com
http://community.netscape.com/n/pfx/forum.aspx?tsn=1&nav=messages&webtag=ws-msdevapps&tid=23133
It's the file attached to the second post in the thread and you'll need to
convert it up to Access 2007 if that's what you are using. It is a true BoM
solution in that it handles assemblies and sub-assemblies of an arbitrary
number of levels. It's not intended to be a fully working template, however,
only a demonstration of how the recursive querying necessary to produce a
bill of materials can be simulated in Access.
I suspect that it might not be what you are looking for, however, as what
you've described sounds a lot simpler than a true BoM, and could be much more
simply achieved with tables Parts, Worksheets and WorksheetDetails, the last
modelling a many-to-many relationship between the first two. Post back for
further assistance if necessary when you've taken a look at the demo.
Ken Sheridan
Stafford, England
Post by Egan
Thanks for the warnings guys. My requirements really are that simple. If
no-one can suggest a template, how about some pointers? Access or Excell? I'm
reasonably comfortable with basic formulas in Excell and I did some messing
about with Access a few years ago. I'm familliar with one-to-many
relationships and normalisation etc. I just don't have the time do devote to
learning it all again from scratch.
Post by Larry Linson
That may not be too difficult a database application to create if your
requirements are as simple as they can be... but if you need to define and
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Post by Larry Linson
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KenSheridan via AccessMonster.com
2010-05-25 17:54:26 UTC
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What you need is a form in single form view based on the Kit table, and
within it a subform in continuous forms view based on a query which joins the
PartKit and Kit tables. The subform should include a form footer section.
The subform is linked to the parent form on the Kit fields.

One amendment you'll need to make to your model is to add a Quantity field to
the PartKit table, assuming a Kit might have more than one of each part.
This can then be used to compute the cost.

The query on which the subform is based would be:

SELECT PartKit.[Part Number], Quantity, Description, Cost
FROM Part INNER JOIN PartKit
ON Part.[Part Number] = PartKit.[Part Number]
ORDER BY PartKit.[Part Number];

The PartKit subform would have the following controls:

1. A combo box bound set up as follows:

Name: cboPart

ControlSource: [Part Number]

RowSource: SELECT [Part Number], Description, Cost FROM Part ORDER BY
[part Number];

BoundColumn: 1

ColumnCount: 3

ColumnWidths: 2cm;4cm;2cm

ListWidth: 8cm

Access will convert the dimensions to inches if you are not using metric
units. Experiment with the ColumnWidths dimensions to get the best fit. The
ListWidth is the sum of the column widths.

2. A text box to show the description with a ControlSource of: [Description].
Set its Locked property to True (Yes) and its Enabled property to False (No)

3. A text box to show the unit cost with a ControlSource of: [Cost]. Set
its Locked property to True (Yes) and its Enabled property to False (No)

4. A text box with a ControlSource of:
[Quantity]

5. A text box to show the gross cost per part, with a ControlSource of:

=[Quantity] * [Cost]

6. A text box in the footer to show the gross cost of the kit with a
ControlSource of:
=Sum([Quantity] * [Cost])

Ken Sheridan
Stafford, England
Post by Egan
I've now made my three tables;
Part, with fields; / Part Number / Description / Cost
Kit, with field / Kit/
and to link them;
PartKit with fields /Kit / Part Number/
and i've got the one-many relationships between the tables.
I can make the form to input the new parts, but I'm stuck with how to make a
form to create a new kit
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Egan
2010-05-27 20:22:37 UTC
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Thanks for that Ken.

I'll give it a try...
Post by KenSheridan via AccessMonster.com
What you need is a form in single form view based on the Kit table, and
within it a subform in continuous forms view based on a query which joins the
PartKit and Kit tables. The subform should include a form footer section.
The subform is linked to the parent form on the Kit fields.
One amendment you'll need to make to your model is to add a Quantity field to
the PartKit table, assuming a Kit might have more than one of each part.
This can then be used to compute the cost.
SELECT PartKit.[Part Number], Quantity, Description, Cost
FROM Part INNER JOIN PartKit
ON Part.[Part Number] = PartKit.[Part Number]
ORDER BY PartKit.[Part Number];
Name: cboPart
ControlSource: [Part Number]
RowSource: SELECT [Part Number], Description, Cost FROM Part ORDER BY
[part Number];
BoundColumn: 1
ColumnCount: 3
ColumnWidths: 2cm;4cm;2cm
ListWidth: 8cm
Access will convert the dimensions to inches if you are not using metric
units. Experiment with the ColumnWidths dimensions to get the best fit. The
ListWidth is the sum of the column widths.
2. A text box to show the description with a ControlSource of: [Description].
Set its Locked property to True (Yes) and its Enabled property to False (No)
3. A text box to show the unit cost with a ControlSource of: [Cost]. Set
its Locked property to True (Yes) and its Enabled property to False (No)
[Quantity]
=[Quantity] * [Cost]
6. A text box in the footer to show the gross cost of the kit with a
=Sum([Quantity] * [Cost])
Ken Sheridan
Stafford, England
Post by Egan
I've now made my three tables;
Part, with fields; / Part Number / Description / Cost
Kit, with field / Kit/
and to link them;
PartKit with fields /Kit / Part Number/
and i've got the one-many relationships between the tables.
I can make the form to input the new parts, but I'm stuck with how to make a
form to create a new kit
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david
2010-05-24 02:19:19 UTC
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These are "exploding BOM samples"

http://www.mvps.org/access/modules/mdl0027.htm

http://www.mvps.org/access/queries/qry0023.htm

But it's not completely clear what you require: From your
description, you just want to be able to look up a single
part in a part number table, and add % to the cost? That's
not a template: it's a query using the filter button on the Access
menu.

(david)
Post by Egan
Hi. I need an Access (or maybe Excel) template to help me create bills of
materials. A worksheet with a list of items (record) with the fields "Part
number", "description" and "cost". I then need to be able create a BOM by
entering the "part number" and have the "description" and "cost" as well as
"selling price" (cost + profit %) calculated.
Thanks in advance. Chris.
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